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Alexandra

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Εδώ και ώρα ψάχνω το cyclone bed. Το μόνο που έχω βρει από εικόνα είναι αυτή, εδώ.

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Many years of my early life were spent sleeping under the stars, on a bedroll, or a cyclone bed as a shearer. Your bedding should be rolled up as soon as you climb out of it. Left unrolled any manner of biting animals are likely to find it comfortable too. Not so bad if they are lizards, but scorpions and snakes are generally not welcome bedfellows. My unkempt bundle on the cyclone bed is off the ground, and although untidy, it is unlikely to become filled with 'nasties'. One should at least pull the canvas over the blankets to keep some of the dust and crap out of it.

Μήπως σημαίνει αυτοσχέδιο κρεβάτι;

Mod: Αυτό το νήμα ξεκίνησε από εδώ.

 

pontios

Well-known member
Ενδιαφέρον νήμα.

Alexander wrote ..
Μήπως σημαίνει αυτοσχέδιο κρεβάτι;

Στην αρχή νόμισα ότι αυτό το cyclone bed αναφερόταν σε μια έκταση μεταφερόμενης άμμου, που προέκυψε από ένα φαινόμενο κατά το οποίο η άμμος είχε αρθεί και παρασυρθεί από την αρχική τοποθεσία της, από έναν κυκλώνα (που σάρωσε την περιοχή στο μακρινό παρελθόν, ή πιο πρόσφατα; ), και επανατοποθετήθηκε στην καινούργια (τωρινή) τοποθεσία, ίσως 100 χιλιόμετρα μακριά;
Δεν είμαι σίγουρος, πάντως.
 

pontios

Well-known member
..μεταφερόμενου άμμου.
..κατά τον οποίο.

Πήγα να γράψω επανεναποτέθηκε (redeposited) - αλλά κοκκίνισε (από την ντροπή του; )
 

Alexandra

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Staff member
Εγώ έχω την αίσθηση ότι είναι ανθρώπινη κατασκευή.

Ή μπορεί και όχι.
 

Alexandra

Super Moderator
Staff member
Και δεν ρωτάμε τον κύριο με το μπλογκ;

Έδιτ: Του έστειλα e-mail.
 

daeman

Administrator
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Εδώ και ώρα ψάχνω το cyclone bed. Το μόνο που έχω βρει από εικόνα είναι αυτή, εδώ.

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Many years of my early life were spent sleeping under the stars, on a bedroll, or a cyclone bed as ashearer. Your bedding should be rolled up as soon as you climb out of it. Left unrolled any manner of biting animals are likely to find it comfortable too. Not so bad if they are lizards, but scorpions and snakes are generally not welcome bedfellows. My unkempt bundle on the cyclone bed is off the ground, and although untidy, it is unlikely to become filled with 'nasties'. One should at least pull the canvas over the blankets to keep some of the dust and crap out of it.

Μήπως σημαίνει αυτοσχέδιο κρεβάτι;


Έτσι φαίνεται:

The men claim that they were told in the south that full accommodation would be provided and the only things they needed to bring were their personal effects and blankets. On arrival, they were herded into a couple of houses badly in need of renovation and already occupied by railway workers smarting under long-standing grievances.

NO MATTRESSES

Only other equipment provided was a cyclone bed for each man - no mattress or palliasse [paillasse ή palliace: αχυρόστρωμα], not even a wardrobe or cupboard in which to keep their belongings. Fortunately they have found no need to use the blankets in the customary fashion, and with many thicknesses of newspaper they have improvised paddings for the wire mattresses.
The Northern Standard, Darwin, 14 Apr 1950

Prosecuting Sgt. Bowie admitted that Auroux had been under observation as a mental defective at the hospital for some days, and had wrecked the refractory ward there. It is understood that he pulled a number of fibro sheets from the ceiling of the ward and dragged out electric light fittings, and in the police cell he wrecked a Cyclone bed.
The Northern Standard, Darwin, 3 Nov 1950

And what were you sleeping on?
Palliasses there - yes,
the cyclone bed things with palliasses and blankets, with the palliasses and blankets having to be folded up every time. And, of course, that again was not so easy when you are doing shift work, some of those things.
Interview with Dame Beryl Beaurepaire, a veteran of the WAAAF.


Από την εποχή και τους χώρους που αναφέρεται, υποθέτω κάτι σαν τα παλιά, φτηνά κρεβάτια με σομιέ, ένα ξύλινο ή μεταλλικό τελάρο με το συρμάτινο πλέγμα μέσα, χωρίς το στρώμα. Όπως οι κουκέτες στους στρατιωτικούς θαλάμους.

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Φωτογραφία από εκεί.

Γι' αυτήν εδώ τη χρήση της αυτοσχέδιας στρωμνής, στρωσίδι μάλλον θα το έλεγα, εκτός αν βρήκε κανένα τέτοιο πεταμένο στην κοίτη του ξεροπόταμου ο φυγάς και το αξιοποίησε δεόντως.
 

Alfie

New member
Να εισφέρω την εκδοχή αυτού που ονομάζαμε είτε ράντσο είτε κρεβάτι εκστρατείας;
 

Alexandra

Super Moderator
Staff member
Να εισφέρω την εκδοχή αυτού που ονομάζαμε είτε ράντσο είτε κρεβάτι εκστρατείας;
Ναι, ήδη από το #3 και το #4, στη μετάφρασή τους έχουν προτείνει το ράντζο η Μπέρνι και ο Άζι.

Άραγε το "cyclone" είναι κανένα πολύ παλιό brand name;
 

Alexandra

Super Moderator
Staff member
Ή ίσως είναι «κλίνες θυέλλης» όπως έχουμε εμείς τις λάμπες θυέλλης.
Εμείς έχουμε τις λάμπες θυέλλης και τα κρεβάτια εκστρατείας, αυτοί έχουν όντως κλίνες θυέλλης. Ιδού και η απάντηση του κυρίου με το μπλογκ:

A cyclone bed is a folding bed frame. The metal frame has wire mesh from what is known in Australia as cyclone fencing stretched over and wired to the frame, then there are folding legs for the base. The beds were often slept in without a mattress, just a swag rolled out on them. They are still found in some older shearer's quarters on sheep and cattle stations (ranches) in Australia. 50 years ago they were still in wide use (I slept many nights in such a bed) however they are no longer really used, a relic of the past. The beds were 'cyclone proof' (hurricane proof) that is, nothing could damage them and were transportable to bush camps and temporary accomodation.
 

pontios

Well-known member
Εμείς έχουμε τις λάμπες θυέλλης και τα κρεβάτια εκστρατείας, αυτοί έχουν όντως κλίνες θυέλλης. Ιδού και η απάντηση του κυρίου με το μπλογκ:

A cyclone bed is a folding bed frame. The metal frame has wire mesh from what is known in Australia as cyclone fencing stretched over and wired to the frame, then there are folding legs for the base. The beds were often slept in without a mattress, just a swag rolled out on them. They are still found in some older shearer's quarters on sheep and cattle stations (ranches) in Australia. 50 years ago they were still in wide use (I slept many nights in such a bed) however they are no longer really used, a relic of the past. The beds were 'cyclone proof' (hurricane proof) that is, nothing could damage them and were transportable to bush camps and temporary accomodation.

This would have been my next guess, Alexandra... that it uses/incorporates cyclone fencing - but I saw that everyone was already on the right track.
Now you could ask the kind gentleman to explain the cryptic lyrics - the "season of the lullin"...and "rolling on the run".
 

bernardina

Moderator
Εμείς έχουμε τις λάμπες θυέλλης και τα κρεβάτια εκστρατείας, αυτοί έχουν όντως κλίνες θυέλλης. Ιδού και η απάντηση του κυρίου με το μπλογκ:

A cyclone bed is a folding bed frame. The metal frame has wire mesh from what is known in Australia as cyclone fencing stretched over and wired to the frame, then there are folding legs for the base. The beds were often slept in without a mattress, just a swag rolled out on them. They are still found in some older shearer's quarters on sheep and cattle stations (ranches) in Australia. 50 years ago they were still in wide use (I slept many nights in such a bed) however they are no longer really used, a relic of the past. The beds were 'cyclone proof' (hurricane proof) that is, nothing could damage them and were transportable to bush camps and temporary accomodation.


Με άλλα λόγια, το πτυσσόμενο ντιβανάκι που έχω στην αποθήκη για ώρα ανάγκης. Μάλιστα... :D
 

nickel

Administrator
Staff member
Καλημέρα. Πάντως, ενώ το Webster's σε ψυλλιάζει προς αυτή την κατεύθυνση με το λήμμα
Cyclone (trademark) used for a chain link fence
το πολυδιαφημισμένο Macquarie των Αυστραλών δεν περιέχει τίποτα σχετικά με το θέμα.
 

Alexandra

Super Moderator
Staff member
Άρα είναι όντως brand name το Cyclone. H εταιρεία που το κατασκευάζει είναι στη Νέα Ζηλανδία, και έτσι εξηγείται γιατί αυτή η ονομασία είναι άγνωστη εκτός Αυστραλίας.
 

nickel

Administrator
Staff member
Μπράβο, Άλεξ. Δεν είχα ώρα να ψάξω να τους βρω. Απ' όλα φτιάχνουν, από deer fence μέχρι «chainlink, panel fence, netting and barb wire products» — μόνο chicken wire δεν αναφέρουν. Και μάλλον δεν έφτιαχναν αυτοί τα ράντζα. Απλώς έδωσαν το όνομα στα συρματόπλεγμα των ράντζων.
 
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