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Alexandra

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It was gypsies and they were burying this guy feet first. He was wrapped in a canvas cloth. They wrapped him in rosaries and garlic. This guy had committed a crime. Rape or murder or something. And they were burying him this way, in this very elaborate ceremony in the crux of a crossroad, so that his body would not get up, basically, and cause trouble. So that the corpse would remain in the ground.

Ως γνωστόν το feet first σημαίνει απλώς "τέζα", αλλά σας δίνεται η εντύπωση εδώ ότι τον θάβουν όρθιο; Ή απλώς ο αφηγητής θέλει να πει, "έθαβαν έναν τύπο, έναν πεθαμένο"; Και τον έθαψαν στο σταυροδρόμι για να μη γίνει ζόμπι.
 

Alexandra

Super Moderator
Staff member
A cemetery in Australia will soon be offering people the chance to be buried feet first.
A company in Victoria state has been given permission to open a vertical cemetery, where bodies are buried standing up and without coffins.

Καταπληκτικό! Το "όρθιοι" το καταλαβαίνω, για οικονομία χώρου. Το χωρίς φέρετρο τι νόημα έχει;
 

Elsa

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Το χωρίς φέρετρο τι νόημα έχει;

Για περιβαλλοντικούς λόγους, ίσως; Δεν σπαταλάς ξύλο (δηλ. δέντρα) και η αποδόμηση γίνεται πιο γρήγορα, υποθέτω.
 
Για περιβαλλοντικούς λόγους, ίσως; Δεν σπαταλάς ξύλο (δηλ. δέντρα) και η αποδόμηση γίνεται πιο γρήγορα, υποθέτω.

πιθανώς έχει να κάνει και με τον σεβασμό προς τον νεκρό.
 

Palavra

Mod Almighty
Staff member
Υπάρχει ένα ρητό των Ρομ που λέει «αν πεθάνω, θάψτε με όρθιο γιατί έζησα γονατιστός όλη μου τη ζωή». Το έχω συναντήσει σε παλιά μου μετάφραση - Αλ, νομίζω ότι πρόκειται για το συγκεκριμένο έθιμο.
http://inthefray.org/content/view/359/161/
 
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[edit] Body positioning
Burials may be placed in a number of different positions. Christian burials are made extended, i.e., lying flat with arms and legs straight, or with the arms folded upon the chest, and with the eyes and mouth closed. Extended burials may be supine (lying on the back) or prone (lying on the front). However, in some cultures, being buried face down shows marked disrespect. Other ritual practices place the body in a flexed position with the legs bent or crouched with the legs folded up to the chest. Warriors in some ancient societies were buried in an upright position. In Islam, the head is pointed toward and the face is turned toward Mecca, the holiest city in Islam. Many cultures treat placement of dead people in an appropriate position to be a sign of respect even when burial is impossible.

In nonstandard burial practices, such as mass burial, the body may be positioned arbitrarily. This can be a sign of disrespect to the deceased, or at least nonchalance on the part of the inhumer, or due to considerations of time and space.


[edit] Orientation
Historically, Christian burials were made supine east-west, with the head at the western end of the grave. This mirrors the layout of Christian churches, and for much the same reason; to view the coming of Christ on Judgment day (Eschaton). In many Christian traditions, ordained clergy are traditionally buried in the opposite orientation, and their coffins carried likewise, so that at the General Resurrection they may rise facing, and ready to minister to, their people.


[edit] Inverted burial
For humans, maintaining an upside down position, with the head vertically below the feet, is highly uncomfortable for any extended period of time, and consequently burial in that attitude (as opposed to attitudes of rest or watchfulness, as above) is highly unusual and generally symbolic. Occasionally suicides were buried upside down, as a post-mortem punishment and (as with burial at cross-roads) to inhibit the activities of the resulting undead.

In Gulliver's Travels, the Lilliputians buried their dead upside down:

They bury their dead with their heads directly downward, because they hold an opinion, that in eleven thousand moons they are all to rise again; in which period the earth (which they conceive to be flat) will turn upside down, and by this means they shall, at their resurrection, be found ready standing on their feet. The learned among them confess the absurdity of this doctrine; but the practice still continues, in compliance to the vulgar.

—Jonathan Swift, Jonathan Swift
Swift's notion of inverted burial might seem the highest flight of fancy, but it appears that among English millenarians the idea that the world would be "turned upside down" at the Apocalypse enjoyed some currency. There is at least one attested case of a person being buried upside down by instruction; a Major Peter Labelliere of Dorking (d. June 4, 1800) lies thus upon the summit of Box Hill.[7] Similar stories have attached themselves to other noted eccentrics, particularly in southern England, but not always with a foundation in truth.[8]
 
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