με το καγέν

[Theseus]

I was looking up a phrase which I had come across in my reading, δηλ. στο φτερό to see if it could be used in the sense of ‘at the double’ like μάνι μάνι or τσάκα τσάκα. The phrase seems generally to mean ‘on the fly’ i.e. in a hurry and often without preparation. I looked it up also in slang.gr where there appear this sentence:

Από την γρήγορη και πετυχημένη βολή του κυνηγού προς τα αθώα πουλάκια, καθώς αυτά πετούν για να γλιτώσουν από τον καημένο και ΠΕΙΝΑΣΜΕΝΟ (why capitalised?) κυνηγό με το καγέν. I can understand the sentence apart from the word καγέν. It can hardly mean ‘cayenne pepper! But what does it mean?

 

[erenta]

Maybe it means Porsche Cayenne? Check this out: https://rennlist.com/forums/cayenne...9435-do-you-use-your-cayenne-for-hunting.html

 

[m_a_a_]

Maybe it means Porsche Cayenne?

Most definitely.

 

[cougr]

Minor point, although the spelling καγέν isn't uncommon, the standard transliteration for cayenne (whether for the Porsche, peppers etc.) is καγιέν.

 

[Theseus]

Thanks all! BTW:- Why is πεισμένος in capital letters? Any ideas? Is it because ‘hungry’ for a man with a Porsche is satirical. Έτσι νομίζω…

 

[cougr]

I think so, Theseus. The capitalised letters are most likely used to imply and highlight sarcasm and irony. A person driving a Porsche Cayenne obviously doesn't need to hunt for and kill birds out of necessity or for survival. You can also think of the capitalization as a written eye-roll or an expression of exasperation on the writer's part.

 

[Katsik35]

Apparently, there is also an airgun model called Cayenne:

BSA R12 CLX Pro Cayenne Edition

Mark Camoccio examines how the R12 CLX Pro Cayenne Edition combines stunning design with advanced engineering for a superior shooting experience

www.gunmart.net

 

[m_a_a_]

Minor point, although the spelling καγέν isn't uncommon, the standard transliteration for cayenne (whether for the Porsche, peppers etc.) is καγιέν.

Or maybe we just found a sleek way of distinguishing between the Porsche and the pepper…

I think so, Theseus. The capitalised letters are most likely used to imply and highlight sarcasm and irony. A person driving a Porsche Cayenne obviously doesn't need to hunt for and kill birds out of necessity or for survival. You can also think of the capitalization as a written eye-roll or an expression of exasperation on the writer's part.

What's more, it can be construed as a scornful attempt at sketching out the "psyche" of the hunter in question, as also suggested in the comment section over at slang.gr : he suffers other deprivations (sexual or what have you) that he vents by killing birds…

Apparently, there is also an airgun model called Cayenne:

Although this fits the context remarkably well, I seriously doubt that the guys at slang.gr had a specific airgun in mind. For starters, such an opaque and niched meaning would at least call for a link, such as the one you provided, clarifying things for the reader, but more importantly, it wouldn't really fit the overall contemptuousness of the whole entry: if someone's into airguns he's more likely to share a hunter's interests than mock them… Good find nonetheless!

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And by the way, viewer's discretion is advised:

 

[Theseus]

Thanks for all this extra material, m_a_a. It’s really appreciated and helpful.

 

[SBE]

Και μια που η πρωτεύουσα της γαλλικής Γουιάνας είναι η Καγέν, από την οποία παιρνει το όνομά του το πιπέρι, το αυτοκίνητο, το όπλο κλπ, υποθέτω ότι η γραφή Καγιέν οφείλεται στο ότι οι κύριοι- γιατί πάντα κύριοι είναι στην Ελλάδα- που ασχολούνται με ιχ δεν ασχολούνται με την κουζίνα (η γεωγραφία είναι άλλο ανέκδοτο).

 

[cougr]

Or maybe we just found a sleek way of distinguishing between the Porsche and the pepper…

A bit of trivia for the day:

It actually did cross my mind but then I discovered that the model's name actually derives from the piquant cayenne pepper. Apparently it was coined by brand naming expert Manfred Gotta and chosen to represent the car's fiery nature, intense performance, and spicy, spirited driving dynamics. (And if someone could enlighten me as to how "spicy, spirited driving" might be translated into Greek, I'd be delighted).

 

[SBE]

Όσο βγάει νόημα στα αγγλικά, τόσο βγάζει και στα ελληνικά. Μην το ψάχνουμε.

 

[Theseus]

Gotta in typical advertising manner wanted to give the Porsche Cayenne a personality: spicy, fiery and immediately responsive. In these politically correct days you have to put this into Greek sans sexism or racial stereotype. I would perhaps attribute this to the Italian male persona but perhaps this is a ‘dreaded’ racial stereotype and is best left alone untranslated, as SBE wisely implied but this a challenge to you, cougr. Describe such a person then apply it to a souped-up fast car…..

 

[cougr]

Όσο βγάει νόημα στα αγγλικά, τόσο βγάζει και στα ελληνικά. Μην το ψάχνουμε.

Πάντως, για τους λάτρεις αυτοκινήτων υψηλών επιδόσεων, πρόκειται για βασική, καθημερινή ορολογία. Για αυτούς τουλάχιστον, σίγουρα κάτι σημαίνει.

@Θησέα
As mentioned above, all these terms comprise part of high performance car enthusiasts, basic, everyday terminology/ jargon and are typically used without any discriminatory, racial or otherwise unsavoury connotations.