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m_a_a_ replied to the thread
imperial apple.
Έχω έναν ουράνιο γλόμπο, γιατρέ…
:D
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True, m_a_a., and quite possibly they may have stemmed from the expression "χαμένος από χέρι".
See "χαμένος από χέρι", in the link...
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Savvier members can either corroborate or refute this: I believe the phrase από χέρι comes from playing cards: Καμένος/καταδικασμένος...